Healing with the Light

[c0rzilla]

The reason that Arcane Magic hinders a Troll's ability to regenerate is because Fire Magic burns them. Any damage caused by fire cauterises the wound and causes it to stop regrowing as it normally would.

Together the high elves and humans used fire magic to prevent the trolls from regenerating their wounds.

Which brings up this. . .

Would a wound that has been cauterised be capable of being healed by the Light so the skin would return to its normal state?

Perhaps if you reopen the wound quickly enough...

[Loxmardin]

Or carve off the cauterised tissue. Painful, but hey...

[DaveM]

I think there's superhero RP and commoner RP. (and mixed)

Which is not to say both can't be heroic. But "super-hero" characters know their crew or organisation have ressurections and massive heals at the ready, while commoners have to scrape out the gold neccesarry for healing out of their adventuring and the two gold to lose that scar may just never be worth it to them. The challenges are different.

But once you roll somone who can scry into minds, chuck massive icelances, summon demons or go head to head with uberbears and pure-death-wielders - understand that it will automatically pull you into super-hero land and thus into easy-heal land. You can't be on par with the big boys and also ask that contextually minor things are a problem to them.

On top of that, I sincerely believe a villain that has gone through elaborate RP and extensive plots and killed the good guy(s) once, twice, is then (and only then) perfectly legitimate in ICly taking the measures to insure no resssurection follows (containing/dispersitng/taking the remains - typically ashes, soul-stealing, etc.)

That said, yea, light fixes, nature grows - which to me means one is spiritual the other physical. So nature definetely knows what to grow.

With growing limbs with light, it's surely possible since it's included in harder ressurrections. The challenge of it, however, is double. It being healing according to spirit and NOT according to body, to me it means that the owner has to detect the scar/missing thing/etc as truly missing with a part of their soul. If they've become use to it to any degree, I'd argue the light can fix no more. Aditionally, it takes the biggest cabala of "superhero" priests, with at least one of them being super-specialised in healing doing the main work while powered by the others.

[hiddengecko]

I think there's superhero RP and commoner RP. (and mixed)

Which is not to say both can't be heroic. But "super-hero" characters know their crew or organisation have ressurections and massive heals at the ready, while commoners have to scrape out the gold neccesarry for healing out of their adventuring and the two gold to lose that scar may just never be worth it to them. The challenges are different.

But once you roll somone who can scry into minds, chuck massive icelances, summon demons or go head to head with uberbears and pure-death-wielders - understand that it will automatically pull you into super-hero land and thus into easy-heal land. You can't be on par with the big boys and also ask that contextually minor things are a problem to them.

On top of that, I sincerely believe a villain that has gone through elaborate RP and extensive plots and killed the good guy(s) once, twice, is then (and only then) perfectly legitimate in ICly taking the measures to insure no resssurection follows (containing/dispersitng/taking the remains - typically ashes, soul-stealing, etc.)

That said, yea, light fixes, nature grows - which to me means one is spiritual the other physical. So nature definetely knows what to grow.

With growing limbs with light, it's surely possible since it's included in harder ressurrections. The challenge of it, however, is double. It being healing according to spirit and NOT according to body, to me it means that the owner has to detect the scar/missing thing/etc as truly missing with a part of their soul. If they've become use to it to any degree, I'd argue the light can fix no more. Aditionally, it takes the biggest cabala of "superhero" priests, with at least one of them being super-specialised in healing doing the main work while powered by the others.

How I've always treated it is that if they're used to it (old wounds and such) the restored limb or organ will take some time to regain function--weeks, or even months before they learn to use it again and their mind becomes accustomed to it being there. There's also a factor of pain, both in the restoration and after.

For instance, I once RPed the regeneration of an eye lost several years ago. The healing itself reduced a hardened warrior to a blubbering mess, and the eye could not see anything more than a blur for weeks after the healing. During that time, it also caused splitting migraines, dizziness, and in general was quite uncomfortable--but it worked again, in time.

[DaveM]

I'd all so add that I think all this should be twice as hard on Blood Elves since that there nature or light energy won't much enjoy the fel still creeping about their bodies.

[Aphetoros]

That's why we use fel healing.

Pff.

[Jonoth]

Personally, I like lost limbs having long term repercussions. Seems like the only time people keep such injuries is to wear an eyepatch.

Also, from Wowpedia:

Trolls are capable of regrowing fingers and toes, but more complex parts like limbs and organs are beyond their abilities.

I got this while looking up this guy, who is a lore figure and removed his arm himself with a spear, not by magic:


Discuss!

[flammos200]

The reason that Arcane Magic hinders a Troll's ability to regenerate is because Fire Magic burns them. Any damage caused by fire cauterises the wound and causes it to stop regrowing as it normally would.

Together the high elves and humans used fire magic to prevent the trolls from regenerating their wounds.

Which brings up this. . .

Would a wound that has been cauterised be capable of being healed by the Light so the skin would return to its normal state?

Just a tiny note. The tale of Vula'jin the Void explains how a Troll regrew practically his entire body(Just his upper torso, neck and head remained), after being immersed in a pool of Shadowflame.

Linkies: http://www.wowpedia.org/Vula'jin_the_Void

Since it's in an Ask The Creative Devs, you can take it as Blizz's cold, hard fact.

Sooooo... Yeah, Warcraft = Epic healz, epic damage, epic combat, epic everything.

You go to the store, and the shopkeeper says 'Hail, do you wish to buy a scroll of soul-sucking? Or perhaps you don't want to bother with walking back home and would like a Scroll of Recall? Or would you like this snow-plum that will grow your arms back and return you from the brink of death?'

On the note with fel in the Blood Elven body, I got to play with that during a Templar storyline, in which the characters were to get the aforementioned class's tattoos. We didn't do it with ink. Instead, they were a pattern of scars seared into their bodies by use of the Light. Extra-painful, because it was done on a Blood Elven body, and hurt for about two weeks. Naturally, the smell hinted to cooked elf.

Happy fun times.

[CappnRob]

Personally, I like lost limbs having long term repercussions. Seems like the only time people keep such injuries is to wear an eyepatch.

Also, from Wowpedia:

Trolls are capable of regrowing fingers and toes, but more complex parts like limbs and organs are beyond their abilities.

I got this while looking up this guy, who is a lore figure and removed his arm himself with a spear, not by magic:


Discuss!

There are many theories surrounding Zul'jin. Some say he simply didn't regrow his arm as a message, others say trolls can't literally regenerate limbs.

Then again, this is Zul'jin, a troll who supposedly was alive during the Troll Wars. Which was 2000 years ago, or whatever.

[flammos200]

Personally, I like lost limbs having long term repercussions. Seems like the only time people keep such injuries is to wear an eyepatch.

Also, from Wowpedia:

Trolls are capable of regrowing fingers and toes, but more complex parts like limbs and organs are beyond their abilities.

I got this while looking up this guy, who is a lore figure and removed his arm himself with a spear, not by magic:


Discuss!

There are many theories surrounding Zul'jin. Some say he simply didn't regrow his arm as a message, others say trolls can't literally regenerate limbs.

Then again, this is Zul'jin, a troll who supposedly was alive during the Troll Wars. Which was 2000 years ago, or whatever.

Blizzard answered that already here:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2721372142

"Q: If trolls are able to regenerate their limbs, why didn't Zul'jin's arm grow back?

A: For the most part, it is the speed at which trolls regenerate that makes them formidable foes. When in balance with the loa of their tribe, they are also able to regrow digits (fingers and toes). Tales abound in troll culture, however, of those blessed by the loa with extraordinary regenerative abilities, such as the ability to regrow limbs and even vital organs lost in battle. The tale of Vula'jin the Void speaks of how he regrew almost his entire body after standing in a pool of shadowflame. But just as the loa can bless, they can also curse; troll children are taught legends of those cursed by the loa, unable to heal even flesh wounds, to instill the proper respect for their patron spirits."

...Basically implying that he wasn't in tune with the Loa... /shrug. Or that the Loa chose to prove a point by not helping him heal.