(04-12-2012, 09:24 AM)Grakor456 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-15-2012, 07:27 PM)Sol Wrote: [ -> ]And finally, as an aside: Voragh. Going by what people have said to me about him during the recent Love Exchange events, he's an extremely divisive character. Some people seem to think he's awesome and love him, but others (I think maybe a majority) think he's too over the top, too ridiculous, swears too much, and generally feels more like a lulz machine than a character. Being over the top, ridiculous and swearing a lot are reflections of the character's personality, so I'm uncertain how to change them. Do you think there's ways I could better execute a character like Voragh without straying too far into Lulz Central? Or do you think I'm being a hypochondriac and doing nothing serious wrong?
Now, my exposure to Voragh has been limited to a couple of the days of the Love is in the Air event and the days in Kidnapped so far, but since you asked for feedback on this guy, here it is...
I'm actually going to have the complete opposite point of view as C0rzilla. I feel Voragh's main flaw isn't so much that he's a "lulz machine," but rather that he's one that acts in a completely unorcish fashion. A humorous character is fine, so the real problem is when you have a character that is so far removed from his race that he might as well be anything else. Voragh comes off, more than anything else, as a violent frat-boy. He's just too far removed from the concepts of honor and practicality that really define how orcs act.
But I'm also an orcish purist, so take that for what it's worth.
Please don't take this as an insult to your RP abilities, just my feedback on one character. Still looking forward to our Warhammer games!
Hm. Thanks for the feedback, Grak, it's given me something to think about.
I actually agree with most of what you've said, here. I think a violent frat boy is an entirely accurate summation of his character, and I confess to playing up this side of him for cheap laughs. Voragh was, all told, my second orcish character in my RPing history (Dhorgun, preceding him by a month and a half, was my first) and I'll admit freely to knowing the race better now than I did when I first kicked him off. Recently, particularly in the past few weeks, I've been looking back on him and trying to retroactively iron out certain aspects of his character and trying to fit them into a traditional orcish mindset.
And I've realised something. It's not just that he's an orc who's forsook tradition, though; it's that, being born into the Bonechewers, fighting in the First and Second Wars and diverging away from orcish society around the time Durotar was founded, he's got a completely warped and misshapen view of what it means to be an orc to begin with. He's ultimately intended to be a washed-up wreck of an orc from an outcast clan who tries to relive his glory days of blood and thunder during the First and Second Wars whenever he can and fills the gaps in with Cartel-derived hedonism, spewing bile and vitriol and picking fights as a defence mechanism when his ego is slighted.
I know it's perfectly easy to
explain these things as I've just done, but actually pulling it off correctly is a different matter, so thanks for the heads up. C0rzilla's comment a few months back was greatly reassuring as to whether I was proverbially
doin it rite, but this has thrown me a little. I'm concerned, now, whether I'm accomplishing what I set out to achieve with Voragh, so I think I'll reevaluate him some more. This has reminded me, however, that I need to RP with you on Dhorgun sometime. He's definitely a more traditional orc - both IC and OOC - and I'd be interested to hear what you think. (Loving the Warhammer too, BTW.)
(04-12-2012, 09:56 AM)McKnighter Wrote: [ -> ]I should be more constructive.
So, first off, Castor.
Castor is a great person, he's just a happy-go-lucky paladin who wants to enjoy himself and knows how to be a gentleman. Him and Calia are just adorable together, needs to do more of that. >:C He's a kid and he acts like one. Baidin and Castor are bros for life, hopefully they can go off into the sunset and purge some warlocks together(If he ever gets out of the HoS...
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Voragh reminds me of a punk orc, taking advantage of his brute strength to do whatever he wishes. I like to think of him as the new-mindset of orcs under Garrosh... Which can be both a good thing and a bad thing. Though I do get a vibe he could be toned down a bit with the 'lulz'. Otherwise, I think he's a great character from being built out of the Love Exchange. The spider lady would totally use him though.
That's about all I got really, I need to get on Calia's parents more to hang out with the Black Harvest more. (Though.. I tend to avoid events.. Which is most of what I've seen you guys do.
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Thanks, Micky! I appreciate the positive comments regarding Castor (Baidin better not get hisself corrupted >:C) and I agree, him and Cali are just too cute. But I also know what you're saying about Voragh - although I'm not quite sure what you mean by his 'being built out of the Love Exchange', as he was a few months old before that event rolled around. That was just his first time to 'shine', so to speak, in the public eye. You're onto something when you mention Garrosh's Horde, though, because one of a few potential ideas I have for him is to gradually inch his way back towards Horde orthodoxy through his support of its new leader come Cata.
And yes, you do need to be on those two more, although we're having a quiet week what with Kidnapped going on. THINGS SHALL CHANGE SOON.
Thanks, you guys, for giving me something constructive to work off. I'll try and take it all on board. Cheers.